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	<title>Comments on: WMTM follow-up: A Portland journalism incubator, and more</title>
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		<title>By: Daniel Bachhuber</title>
		<link>http://michellerafter.com/2009/11/24/wmtm-follow-up-a-portland-journalism-incubator-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-4318</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Bachhuber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;http://michellerafter.com/2009/11/24/wmtm-follow-up-a-portland-journalism-incubator-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-4046&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Scott&lt;/a&gt;, I think you might have more success getting input on the co-working space if you emailed the Google Group. Tweets sometimes get lost in the stream.

+1 for thinking of the J school as possible too, Ron. That would be cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://michellerafter.com/2009/11/24/wmtm-follow-up-a-portland-journalism-incubator-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-4046" rel="nofollow">Scott</a>, I think you might have more success getting input on the co-working space if you emailed the Google Group. Tweets sometimes get lost in the stream.</p>
<p>+1 for thinking of the J school as possible too, Ron. That would be cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Making the most of making the media &#124; Lascher at Large</title>
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		<dc:creator>Making the most of making the media &#124; Lascher at Large</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Michelle V. Rafter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle V. Rafter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron, thanks for reaching out. I&#039;d forgotten that Dec. 3 is the night of the Civil War game, that&#039;ll be a tough call. Regardless of who does or doesn&#039;t go to that meeting, I&#039;m glad to know you&#039;re interested in the progress of that group and I promise to stay in touch. I&#039;m juggling this in addition to having just started a new freelance editing assignment that&#039;s taking most of my time, so my apologies for not being quicker to respond.

Michelle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron, thanks for reaching out. I&#8217;d forgotten that Dec. 3 is the night of the Civil War game, that&#8217;ll be a tough call. Regardless of who does or doesn&#8217;t go to that meeting, I&#8217;m glad to know you&#8217;re interested in the progress of that group and I promise to stay in touch. I&#8217;m juggling this in addition to having just started a new freelance editing assignment that&#8217;s taking most of my time, so my apologies for not being quicker to respond.</p>
<p>Michelle</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle V. Rafter</title>
		<link>http://michellerafter.com/2009/11/24/wmtm-follow-up-a-portland-journalism-incubator-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-4050</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle V. Rafter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott: Thanks for following up. I would love to chat more about this with you. Hadn&#039;t yet because I&#039;ve been trying to squeeze five days of work into three before everyone heads off for Thanksgiving break. I understand that some alt-press types as you call them might be reluctant. However, I&#039;m neither. And as Peter B. would say, he&#039;d finally get me in the building (again).

Michelle Rafter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott: Thanks for following up. I would love to chat more about this with you. Hadn&#8217;t yet because I&#8217;ve been trying to squeeze five days of work into three before everyone heads off for Thanksgiving break. I understand that some alt-press types as you call them might be reluctant. However, I&#8217;m neither. And as Peter B. would say, he&#8217;d finally get me in the building (again).</p>
<p>Michelle Rafter</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel Bachhuber was the only one to DM me after WMTM to express interest in a co-working space. As Ron alludes to, some in the alt-press world might have viewed us as the enemy for so long now they can&#039;t get their minds around a more collaborative relationship.  I can understand that. 

But if it turns out there is more interest, lemme know. I&#039;m on the WMTM Google group, too, and welcome any and all conversations about where journalism is headed in this region. I love the incubator idea, however it ends up being shaped. 

I can&#039;t promise anything, regardless. Just as there&#039;s fear and loathing among the alt-pressers, there&#039;d be plenty of suspicion at The Oregonian about the benefits of this kind of thing. But you never know unless you ask, and I&#039;d be willing to raise the issue if there appears to be enough interest to make it fly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel Bachhuber was the only one to DM me after WMTM to express interest in a co-working space. As Ron alludes to, some in the alt-press world might have viewed us as the enemy for so long now they can&#8217;t get their minds around a more collaborative relationship.  I can understand that. </p>
<p>But if it turns out there is more interest, lemme know. I&#8217;m on the WMTM Google group, too, and welcome any and all conversations about where journalism is headed in this region. I love the incubator idea, however it ends up being shaped. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t promise anything, regardless. Just as there&#8217;s fear and loathing among the alt-pressers, there&#8217;d be plenty of suspicion at The Oregonian about the benefits of this kind of thing. But you never know unless you ask, and I&#8217;d be willing to raise the issue if there appears to be enough interest to make it fly.</p>
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		<title>By: uberVU - social comments</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ron Buel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Buel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t come on Dec. 3 -- having a medical procedure that day, and will be watching the Civil War football game if I am not still groggy that evening.   But I would like to help and would come to future meetings if you would put me on the notification list.  Has the group thought about the U of O J School Center and OPB or the Community Media folks as alternatives to The Oregonian for  incubator space?  Although it is delicious irony to have The Oregonian helping journalists network and survive in concert.   &quot;We like to help out-of-work journalists, and that is why we are getting rid of so many. &quot; 
Personally, I think what is being planned is entirely compatible with what the other work groups coming out of the conference are discussing, Michelle, and I believe there needs to be an effort to connect the google groups working forward.   Let me know if I can help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t come on Dec. 3 &#8212; having a medical procedure that day, and will be watching the Civil War football game if I am not still groggy that evening.   But I would like to help and would come to future meetings if you would put me on the notification list.  Has the group thought about the U of O J School Center and OPB or the Community Media folks as alternatives to The Oregonian for  incubator space?  Although it is delicious irony to have The Oregonian helping journalists network and survive in concert.   &#8220;We like to help out-of-work journalists, and that is why we are getting rid of so many. &#8221;<br />
Personally, I think what is being planned is entirely compatible with what the other work groups coming out of the conference are discussing, Michelle, and I believe there needs to be an effort to connect the google groups working forward.   Let me know if I can help.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Woodward</title>
		<link>http://michellerafter.com/2009/11/24/wmtm-follow-up-a-portland-journalism-incubator-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-4026</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Woodward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, you&#039;re right. The raptured (bought-out), the disappeared and the laid-off former staffers might have to take the freight elevator.... ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, you&#8217;re right. The raptured (bought-out), the disappeared and the laid-off former staffers might have to take the freight elevator&#8230;. <img src='http://michellerafter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention WMTM followup: A Portland journalism incubator, and more &#124; WordCount -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Michelle V. Rafter</title>
		<link>http://michellerafter.com/2009/11/24/wmtm-follow-up-a-portland-journalism-incubator-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-4018</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle V. Rafter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Steve. I also saw Scott&#039;s tweets about space at the O. I love the idea and would have no reservations about using it, though some others in the conference - including some recently laid off staffers - said they&#039;d feel strange going back. Thanks for his email, I&#039;ll follow up.

Michelle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Steve. I also saw Scott&#8217;s tweets about space at the O. I love the idea and would have no reservations about using it, though some others in the conference &#8211; including some recently laid off staffers &#8211; said they&#8217;d feel strange going back. Thanks for his email, I&#8217;ll follow up.</p>
<p>Michelle</p>
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